The Stunner was backstage at the Starland Ballroom for Fight Factory Wrestling‘s No Thanks Given, and I finally got the chance to sit down with someone I’ve been a fan of for years: “The Concrete Rose,” Sonny Kiss.

If you know me, you know I love when the worlds of heavy music and pro wrestling collide. Sonny Kiss isn’t just a wrestler with incredible athleticism; she is a die-hard Nu-Metal fan. We geeked out hard over Limp Bizkit, debated the genre’s “Big Four,” and took a trip down memory lane to the N64 era of wrestling games.

Here is what went down when The Stunner met The Concrete Rose.

Texting Fred Durst & Performing “Nookie”

I had to ask Sonny about a video that went viral a few years back where she was on stage with Limp Bizkit, absolutely crushing it. It turns out, she’s not just a casual fan—she’s tight with Fred Durst and actually prefers the new material.

Rob Pasbani: I saw a video a few years ago of you on stage with Limp Bizkit… They made a big impression me but I fell off after [Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water]

Sonny Kiss: You got to get with the times, baby. That album [Still Sucks] is so good… Actually just texted Fred last night… The entire band, they’re all super, super awesome people.

Rob Pasbani: How did it end up that you ended up on stage and you sang a song?

Sonny Kiss: That’s the song that he does with like all the fans [“Full Nelson”], but they all just don’t do it like me. And I dressed up that day because Fred likes to wear wigs and get cool sometimes. So, I wore like my little pigtails. I wanted to be like a Nu-Metal cowgirl. That’s like my little alter ego, too.

So every time I’m in town… he’ll invite me like say, “Hey, come to the show.” …I brought my guys, my friends with me. And they were like, “Okay, well, you guys can do some wrestling, do some fun segments.” And I was like, “Okay, cool.” And I knew the lyrics obviously… I am not bashful when it comes to performing obviously this is what I do.

The Nu-Metal Mount Rushmore

Since we were already on the topic, I had to get Sonny‘s definitive “Mount Rushmore” of Nu-Metal bands. She broke it down perfectly, analyzing commercial success versus cultural impact.

Sonny Kiss: If we’re talking like the big four, which is obviously the big conversation that they always say on Twitter… Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and I think Slipknot…

Rob Pasbani: Would you consider Deftones Nu-Metal? They wouldn’t

Sonny Kiss: It’s very Nu-Metal to not want to be Nu-Metal. I think that’s kind of like what most people who are Nu-Metal will say. But yeah, I think that’s like the big four if we’re talking like commercial sales, impact and influence… Korn started the genre. Bizkit commercialized it. Linkin Park has the bestselling Nu-Metal album of all time, Hybrid Theory… And then you have Slipknot who has like the biggest cult following. So, I think they also changed the image of what Nu-Metal is.

Gateway to Wrestling: WCW/nWo Revenge

We switched gears to wrestling, and I was surprised to learn that Sonny didn’t start by watching TV—she started on the Nintendo 64.

Sonny Kiss: What got me to watch wrestling was actually playing the video games first… It was Revenge. My brother and my cousins were playing Revenge and I was like, “Oh, this looks cool.” I didn’t know who anyone was. I thought AKI Man was a real person… But my favorites were like Alex Wright because he was like so flamboyant… I loved Jericho. I loved Dean Malenko… And I would use DDP just so I can see Kimberly… I love the Nitro girls. They were like a huge inspiration to me.

I didn’t watch it on TV until maybe like a year or two later after that. I kind of found it randomly and then I saw, I will never forget, I saw the women for the first time and thought this was so cool… Jacqueline was like everything to me… Like Jacqueline could kick your ass. Like she was such a tough woman that like you wouldn’t want to mess with her… She’s sexy, she’s tough. That’s my goals right there.

Dream Matches

Before she went out to face Lady Frost for the title, I asked Sonny who remains on her bucket list of opponents.

Sonny Kiss: I’ve faced a few of my favorites from childhood. So, like Rob Van Dam, I faced him… I would love to wrestle Rey Mysterio. That would be really fun… Jackie [Jacqueline]. Jackie is I mean, she’s just my everything. I would love to wrestle too. Victoria, too. So many people… Jazz is also a big inspiration of mine and she’s also calls me her niece. So, it’s like yeah, it’s I would love to wrestle her.

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